[Rdap] I give up (Mark Conrad)

Thu Jun 2 16:11:32 EDT 2016

I'm still waiting for the student to get back to me with the answer to that question.
I also provided him with information about tera PROMISE http://openscience.us/other/index.html 
And the list of open science portals  http://openscience.us/other/index.html since they are supported by NSF

I looked at the DMP info for CISE and found out they require the data to be in a subject repository.

When he does get back to me I'll talk to him about chunking the data and ask him.

The software developed used proprietary software to produce the data. The software developed is described in a paper that was published in March. Researchers are asking for the data.  
I'm going to have to put together a talk for the dept specifically on data management, repositories and the OSTP.

You people are providing a lot of good information. This is actually the first time I've heard about data issues with computer science researchers.

Thanks
Daureen

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And just to add to what Mark suggested, I see no reason why you couldn't call the NSF Directorate or Program from where this grant is funded.

Best,
Regina

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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 09:09:32 -0400
From: Mark Conrad <mark.conrad at nara.gov>
To: "Research Data, Access and Preservation" <rdap at asis.org>
Subject: Re: [Rdap] I give up
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You mentioned that this is an NSF project. Where did the project tell the NSF they would store the data in the Data Management Plan they submitted with their proposal?

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On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Jonathan Petters <jpetter1 at jhu.edu> wrote:

> Daureen et al.,
>
>
>
> Another option in making such a large amount of data (100s of GB) 
> accessible is for the research group to create a directory or 
> partition locally from which they can grant access to the data sets.
> This way interested parties (presuming there are not a LOT of them) 
> can access the data close to the systems on which they were created.
> This would sidestep the issue of serving up a large amount of data and 
> the potential transfer issues that can go with it.
>
>
>
> Going this route might require the assistance of an IT rep to make 
> sure permissions and security are handled appropriately.  Just another 
> option to consider!
>
>
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> Jonathan Petters, Ph.D.
>
> Data Management Consultant
>
> JHU Data Management Services
>
> http://dmp.data.jhu.edu/
>
> (410) 516-5957
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Rdap [mailto:rdap-bounces at asis.org] *On Behalf Of *Imker, 
> Heidi J
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 7:58 AM
> *To:* Research Data, Access and Preservation
> *Subject:* Re: [Rdap] I give up
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>
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> Hi Daureen and all,
>
>
>
> There is academic torrents for sharing large data files:
> http://academictorrents.com/
>
>
>
> We don't have any experience using it here so sorry to say we can't 
> vouch for it but worth looking into.  It's not a repo in the 
> preservation sense but at least can get the data shared ...
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> Heidi
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>
> On Jun 1, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Mike Smit <Mike.Smit at dal.ca> wrote:
>
> GitHub was my first thought as well, but GitHub caps regular files to 
> <100MB, and files uploaded using its Large Files protocol to 2GB. I 
> believe this is due to the challenge of versioning large files, as 
> opposed to storage limits, so one could try uploading 1000 1GB files.
> I suspect this would attract GitHub's attention in a not-very-positive 
> way.  (git as a tool requires free storage space equal to used storage 
> space, so 2TB of disk would be required: $60/month at market cloud rates).
>
>
>
> I would suggest that for data generated by software, that the "right"
> approach is to release the software, ideally open-source, with 
> appropriate documentation for re-generating that data.  Unless the 
> data generation time period is measured in weeks, months, or years, 
> that would require less resources over time than storing and serving 
> large data files. CPU time is cheap compared to data transfer prices.
>
>
>
> Computer science is a pretty broad area - there are repositories, but 
> they are more focused than the discipline (e.g. machine learning repositories).
>
>
>
> Has anyone built a data repository that distributes files using 
> BitTorrent? That's the kind of thing a computer scientist would get 
> excited about.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Dr. Mike Smit
> Assistant Professor
> School of Information Management
> Faculty of Management
> Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS
>
> Mike.Smit at dal.ca  //  902-494-1901
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 1 June 2016, Daureen Nesdill <daureen.nesdill at utah.edu>
> wrote:
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> Hmmm. The student said he had checked Github and the 1 TB is an issue.
>
>
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> I finally went to IEEE looking for information and learned about Tera 
> Promise http://openscience.us/repo/ 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__openscience.us_re
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> and other open science possibilities.
> http://openscience.us/other/index.html
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> her_index.html&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=NoAn-vdhDckgnJ2YOtD
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> Thanks for the reminder about export control restrictions
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>
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> Daureen
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> *From:* Rdap [rdap-bounces at asis.org] on behalf of Pouchard, Line C [ 
> pouchard at purdue.edu]
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:31 PM
> *To:* Research Data, Access and Preservation
> *Subject:* Re: [Rdap] I give up
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> Daureen:
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>
> Has the student tried Github?  It has a publication workflow where the 
> data is uploaded to zenodo and acquires a DOI.
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>
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> It's not exactly a computer science repository but it might work for 
> his purposes.
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> As zenodo is in the EU, there might be export control restrictions on 
> cyber security data.
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> Line
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> Line Pouchard, PhD
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> Purdue University Libraries
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> On Jun 1, 2016, at 7:14 PM, Daureen Nesdill <daureen.nesdill at utah.edu 
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> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I have a graduate student in computer science requesting me to find 
> him a data repository for his research data. The article has already 
> been published and folks are asking to see the data. The data is in a 
> text format and 1 terabyte uncompressed; compressed it is 100-200 GB. 
> He developed software that used other software to generate the data. 
> It is a test of security issues with androids. He tells me his 
> colleagues are waiting to see where he put his data because no one 
> knows what to do. This project is NSF supported.
>
>
>
> I?ve looked through re3data and conducted a few google searches with 
> no luck. Does anyone have any information about data repositories for 
> computer science?
>
>
>
> Thanks for any assistance,
>
> Daureen
>
>
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>
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> Daureen Nesdill, MS, MLIS
>
> Research Data Management Librarian
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> The Faculty Center @ the J. W. Marriott Library
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> University of Utah
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> 801-585-5975
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