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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Good morning!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I appreciate everyone’s comments – especially seeing that some of the instructions from the different directorates are different. And Sherry, I am in full agreement with you that a lot of the written requirements are just too vague at this point – I hope that NSF will post updates in the not-too-distant future. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think this kind of clarification of intent will continue to be a topic for some time…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Aletia<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br></span><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>Aletia Morgan</span></i><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:cal;color:gray'><br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:cal;color:gray'>Research Application Designer<br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>Office of the Vice President for Research <br> and Graduate & Professional Education<br>Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey<br>715 CoRE Building, Busch Campus<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>ahmorgan@vpr.rutgers.edu<br>732-445-3344<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></i></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> rdap-bounces@asis.org [mailto:rdap-bounces@asis.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cragin, Melissa H<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 27, 2011 4:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> Research Data, Access and Preservation<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rdap] Deciding when a Data Management Plan is not required?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> In seeing this bit that Sherry posted, I re-visited other NSF materials, and find that I need to correct what I wrote a couple of days ago (My apologies for not sorting this out prior to posting my response.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>While the requirements expressed by the Directorates vary to some extent, there is an FAQ posted by NSF that seems to apply across Directorates. It states:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><b>“2. Is a plan for Data Management required if my project is not expected to generate data or samples?</b><o:p></o:p></p><p> Yes. It is acceptable to state in the Data Management Plan that the project is not anticipated to generate data or samples that require management and/or sharing. PIs should note that the statement will be subject to peer review.” (<a href="http://www.nsf.gov/bfa/dias/policy/dmpfaqs.jsp#2">http://www.nsf.gov/bfa/dias/policy/dmpfaqs.jsp#2</a>)<o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jan Cheetham’s post on sorting out the specifics of how such a meeting will be documented and what will be made public (and where) is very helpful advice.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Melissa<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> rdap-bounces@asis.org [mailto:rdap-bounces@asis.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lake, Sherry (sah)<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 22, 2011 3:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> Research Data, Access and Preservation<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rdap] Deciding when a Data Management Plan is not required?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>As for the particular question asked in this e-mail thread, maybe page 4 of the Education & Human Resources (HER) Directorate DMP guidelines (<a href="http://www.nsf.gov/bfa/dias/policy/dmpdocs/ehr.pdf">http://www.nsf.gov/bfa/dias/policy/dmpdocs/ehr.pdf</a>) will help. This section of the guidelines list examples for EHR proposals to follow:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in;text-autospace:none'><i>1. A proposal for a workshop that will result in a workshop report.<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;text-autospace:none'><i>a. The DMP could consist of a statement to the effect that a workshop report will be produced and disseminated, e.g., via a website, publication in a journal, or other means.<span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Institute of Museum & Library Services (IMLS) is a little clearer on when a DMP is required. The DMP requiremnts is part 3 of the section “Specification for Projects that Develop Digital Products”. So I assume, for IMLS, no digital products, no DMP required.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I wish the NSF would give a little more guidance as to what they want in a DMP. They could then tell us which proposals do not require one. I think looking at the specific solicitation should have that information, like Melissa said.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sherry Lake <a href="mailto:shlake@virginia.edu">shlake@virginia.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.lib.virginia.edu/brown/data/">Scientific Data Consultant</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Brown Science and Engineering Library University of Virginia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black'>& & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & &<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'> "A library is not a luxury but one of the necessities<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'> of life." --- Henry Ward Beecher<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black'>& & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & &<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> rdap-bounces@asis.org [mailto:rdap-bounces@asis.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Graybeal<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 22, 2011 12:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> Research Data, Access and Preservation<br><b>Cc:</b> rdap@mail.asis.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rdap] Deciding when a Data Management Plan is not required?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Here's the way I think about this kind of thing:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>1) You have done useful work by the time you finish (presumably).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2) To the extent the useful work was based on discovered, collected, observed, or otherwise modeled data, the conclusions are likely to depend on the those inputs.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>3) If someone wants to evaluate your conclusions in light of your inputs, would they be able to do that?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If the basis is entirely on other papers, then those would presumably be cited in the report. If it is strictly a thought process of a single group, then the report is the data. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But if the basis is on brainstorming ideas from multiple groups, or having people in the meeting each generate their own inputs, which are then collated and massaged, or it relied on results that were on-line and might be different tomorrow -- then it would be a 'best practice' to maintain the original raw materials in a repository (say the web site where your work is managed, if any) that others could inspect. (They might validate your group's wisdom, or find great wisdom that your group missed.) In these cases, I would say a very short Data Management Plan would be worth including.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>john<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Apr 21, 2011, at 13:43, Aletia Morgan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Greetings – I’m working with PIs on reviewing DMP documents that are part of NSF proposals, and I am wondering about whether a DMP is needed.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The project involves staging a meeting with researchers in the discipline, with a goal that includes the development of plans for future research.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Obviously, there’s no experimental data here, and the output is essentially a narrative document. The PI asserts that “This proposal does not seek to collect environmental data. A data management plan is not<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>required.”<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>If a conference is being organized, notes are taken, documents are being written. Is there a need to say how these records will be developed and preserved? Or am I being too compulsive!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks for any thoughts, and if there might be a better place to ask this question.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Aletia<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br><i>Aletia Morgan</i></span><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:cal;color:gray'><br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:cal;color:gray'>Research Application Designer<br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>Office of the Vice President for Research<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br> and Graduate & Professional Education<br>Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey<br>715 CoRE Building, Busch Campus</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'><a href="mailto:ahmorgan@vpr.rutgers.edu">ahmorgan@vpr.rutgers.edu</a><br>732-445-3344</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>Rdap mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Rdap@mail.asis.org">Rdap@mail.asis.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.asis.org/mailman/listinfo/rdap">http://mail.asis.org/mailman/listinfo/rdap</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>----------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>John Graybeal <<a href="mailto:jgraybeal@ucsd.edu">mailto:jgraybeal@ucsd.edu</a>> phone: 858-534-2162<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Product Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Ocean Observatories Initiative Cyberinfrastructure Project: <a href="http://ci.oceanobservatories.org">http://ci.oceanobservatories.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Marine Metadata Interoperability Project: <a href="http://marinemetadata.org">http://marinemetadata.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>