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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And this issue of transparency and accountability was my original rationale for suggesting that SOME Data Management Plan be included – even if it was “we’ll back up the notes and word documents on our server”. To me, beyond the issue of re-use of data, the political accountability question is probably the key driver for this whole initiative.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So I think where I’m ending up is that I will still strongly recommend that SOME data management plan be included, but we’ll see. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks again to all…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br></span><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>Aletia Morgan</span></i><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"cal","serif";color:gray'><br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"cal","serif";color:gray'>Research Application Designer<br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>Office of the Vice President for Research <br> and Graduate & Professional Education<br>Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey<br>715 CoRE Building, Busch Campus<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>aletia.morgan@rutgers.edu<br>732-445-3344<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></i></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> rdap-bounces@asis.org [mailto:rdap-bounces@asis.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Graybeal<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> Research Data, Access and Preservation<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rdap] Deciding when a Data Management Plan is not required?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Umm, I'm not sure the 1999 position will qualify as a best practices document. It's one thing when talking about private communications. But when talking about a publicly funded activity to establish that information, it seems worth closer consideration.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think you could cite it and NSF might find your argument flawless. But from an open data and public money perspective, the spirit of where we're trying to go is to naturally (and easily) use best practices to make as much information publicly visible as possible, in as useful a form as possible. WIthin appropriate cost constraints, of course.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So that is where your personal convictions, preferences, and situation kicks in, I expect. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>john<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On May 4, 2011, at 09:12, Aletia Morgan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Heather – thank you for sharing this! </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As I’m reading this, the following point stuck out:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“What data are not included at the basic level? The Office of Management and Budget statement (1999) specifies that this definition does not include “preliminary analyses, drafts of scientific papers, plans for future research, peer reviews, or communications with colleagues.” Raw data fall into this category as “preliminary analyses.”” ENG</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>By this then, the project I was wondering about would not apply, since the key purpose includes “plans for future research…communication with colleagues”. So then no DMP would be required, beyond stating that it does not apply.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Does this make sense?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Aletia</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br><i>Aletia Morgan</i></span><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"cal","serif";color:gray'><br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"cal","serif";color:gray'>Research Application Designer<br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>Office of the Vice President for Research<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br> and Graduate & Professional Education<br>Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey<br>715 CoRE Building, Busch Campus</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'><a href="mailto:aletia.morgan@rutgers.edu">aletia.morgan@rutgers.edu</a><br>732-445-3344<br><br><br></span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:rdap-bounces@asis.org">rdap-bounces@asis.org</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:rdap-bounces@asis.org]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Heather Piwowar<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, May 03, 2011 3:52 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Research Data, Access and Preservation<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Rdap] Deciding when a Data Management Plan is not required?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Aletia, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To echo the points raised by others and support your observations, I thought I'd point you to a quick-and-dirty thematic assembly of excerpts from all the NSF guidelines, in case it is helpful:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://researchremix.wordpress.com/2010/10/08/revised-nsf/">http://researchremix.wordpress.com/2010/10/08/revised-nsf/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Particularly the "<span class=apple-style-span><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333'>What is considered “data”/research results covered by this policy ?" </span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>section.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Some of the directorates are quite specific.... but others aren't. I agree, I hope the guidelines are updated as the policies become more clear through use!</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Cheers, </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Heather</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>--<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Heather Piwowar<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>DataONE postdoc with NESCent and Dryad<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> studying research data sharing and reuse<br> remotely from Dept of Zoology, UBC, Vancouver Canada<br><a href="http://researchremix.org" target="_blank">http://researchremix.org</a><br><a href="http://twitter.com/#!/researchremix" target="_blank">@researchremix</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Aletia Morgan <<a href="mailto:ahmorgan@vpr.rutgers.edu">ahmorgan@vpr.rutgers.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Good morning!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I appreciate everyone’s comments – especially seeing that some of the instructions from the different directorates are different. And Sherry, I am in full agreement with you that a lot of the written requirements are just too vague at this point – I hope that NSF will post updates in the not-too-distant future. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I think this kind of clarification of intent will continue to be a topic for some time…</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Aletia</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:gray'>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br><i>Aletia Morgan</i></span><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"cal","serif";color:gray'><br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"cal","serif";color:gray'>Research Application Designer<br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>Office of the Vice President for Research<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br> and Graduate & Professional Education<br>Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey<br>715 CoRE Building, Busch Campus</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'><a href="mailto:ahmorgan@vpr.rutgers.edu" target="_blank">ahmorgan@vpr.rutgers.edu</a><br><a href="tel:732-445-3344" target="_blank">732-445-3344</a></span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>Rdap mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Rdap@mail.asis.org">Rdap@mail.asis.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.asis.org/mailman/listinfo/rdap">http://mail.asis.org/mailman/listinfo/rdap</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>----------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>John Graybeal <<a href="mailto:jgraybeal@ucsd.edu">mailto:jgraybeal@ucsd.edu</a>> phone: 858-534-2162<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Product Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Ocean Observatories Initiative Cyberinfrastructure Project: <a href="http://ci.oceanobservatories.org">http://ci.oceanobservatories.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Marine Metadata Interoperability Project: <a href="http://marinemetadata.org">http://marinemetadata.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>