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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi, Here is a roundup of information I received and found. I’ll let you know what we end up doing sometime in October.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">Daureen<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">From Amanda Rinehart<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">The Ohio State University<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">These are questions that have often come up in my conversations, and we have very little to go on for future planning. Would you be so kind as to distribute the answers to your questions? The only guidance I
have found from other institutions is listed below:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Purdue’s pricing: <a href="https://purr.purdue.edu/about/pricing">
https://purr.purdue.edu/about/pricing</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Princeton’s pricing: <a href="http://dataspace.princeton.edu/jspui/about/DataSpacePnG.pdf">
http://dataspace.princeton.edu/jspui/about/DataSpacePnG.pdf</a> “Beginning</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">on</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">July</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">1,</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">2009
the</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">charge</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">per</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Megabyte</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">of</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">storage</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">will</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">be</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">$0.006</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">with</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">a</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">minimum</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">charge</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">of</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">$0.60</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">per</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">submission.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">From David Minor<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">UC San Diego Library</span></b><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Daureen - these questions are very much on our minds. We’ve been kicking around several financial models over the last few years. Our current answers to your questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">1. We don’t currently charge researchers. Whenever we’ve brought up the idea of charging, the conversation almost immediately stops. We are working toward a broader campus-funded or subsidized model that would
allow us to work with research collections in a fuller way. (And the campus is spinning up a “free” basic storage service for everyone. But it’s definitely *not* a repository.)
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">2. The campus financial model includes the things you mention, as well as long-term preservation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">3 and 4. We don’t have a file size limit, but likely will. I’m going to guess we’ll have a limit to the “free” version (dunno, maybe up to 10-15 TBs) and then a hard limit of "no we just can’t deal with that
much," maybe 100+TB?). Note that we can take this amount of content into our preservation environment, with all the appropriate caveats about how long it takes to move data around.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">5. Most of our collections are in the 500GB range, with some spiking up to 5-6TBs. People keep telling us they have massive amounts of big data, but once they understand what curation and preservation actually
mean, the final amount is much smaller. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hope that’s helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">From Willow Dressel<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">Princeton University<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Here is a paper on the current funding model for Princeton’s dspace repository DataSPACE.
<a href="http://dataspace.princeton.edu/jspui/bitstream/88435/dsp01w6634361k/1/DataSpaceFundingModel_20100827.pdf">
http://dataspace.princeton.edu/jspui/bitstream/88435/dsp01w6634361k/1/DataSpaceFundingModel_20100827.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">Not a response but related:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">The 4C project is delighted to announce that the beta version of the </span><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.curationexchange.org/" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-GB">‘Curation Costs
Exchange’</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"> (CCEx) website has been released.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Helping organisations to make smarter investments in digital curation by enabling knowledge transfer and cost comparisons between organisations of all types, the CCEx is an online community platform
for the exchange of curation cost information.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">“The value we can all derive from the CCEx depends entirely on the willingness of organisations to share their cost data, and on their understanding of the benefits that sharing will bring about,”
observes Alex Thirifays of the Danish National Archive (DNA). “The more costs are shared, the more we can all learn about making smarter investments in digital curation.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">A crowd-sourced driven database and library of curation cost information, the CCEx uses the costs data it gathers to provide automatic generation of results for the purposes of self-assessment, cost
comparisons with peers and insights into the financial accounting and activity costs of other organisations; supporting the 4C Project’s vision of creating a better understanding of digital curation costs through collaboration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Beta testing will take place between the 12th August and 15th September and will involve invited testers, but the 4C Project welcomes feedback from all users.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">“Anyone with an interest in or a need for a deeper understanding of the costs of preserving your digital material can try out the CCEx and let us know what they think,” encourages Luis Faria of KEEP
Solutions in Portugal who has led the team charged with developing the CCEx.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">All comments and any cost data shared with the 4C project will be treated confidentially and will be used solely for the purposes of refining the performance of the CCEx.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">In order to take part in the CCEx beta-testing, visit </span><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.curationexchange.org/" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-GB">www.curationexchange.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"> and
get started.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Joy Davidson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Associate Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Digital Curation Centre (DCC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">And</span><span style="color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">also<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">A few papers I’ve found – <o:p>
</o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Institutional Repositories: Exploration of Costs and Value<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.dlib.org/dlib/january13/burns/01burns.html">http://www.dlib.org/dlib/january13/burns/01burns.html</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Science as an Open Enterprise report: Costs of digital repositories<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="https://royalsociety.org/policy/projects/science-public-enterprise/digital-repositories/">https://royalsociety.org/policy/projects/science-public-enterprise/digital-repositories/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="https://royalsociety.org/policy/projects/science-public-enterprise/report/">https://royalsociety.org/policy/projects/science-public-enterprise/report/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Repository of NSF-funded Publications and Related Datasets: “Back of Envelope” Cost Estimate for 15 years<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Plale, Beth; Kouper, Inna; Seiffert, Kurt; Konkiel, Stacy R
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="https://scholarworks.iu.edu/dspace/handle/2022/16599">https://scholarworks.iu.edu/dspace/handle/2022/16599</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Comparison of Methods & Costs of Digital Preservation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download;jsessionid=299418CD33C195D3B1C2E7D4C1E736BD?doi=10.1.1.136.1118&rep=rep1&type=pdf">http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download;jsessionid=299418CD33C195D3B1C2E7D4C1E736BD?doi=10.1.1.136.1118&rep=rep1&type=pdf</a><b>
<o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">2008 blog and what to think about before establishing a repository<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Repositories: Benefits, costs, contingencies (with an example)
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://everybodyslibraries.com/2008/09/11/repositories-benefits-costs-contingencies-with-an-example/">http://everybodyslibraries.com/2008/09/11/repositories-benefits-costs-contingencies-with-an-example/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Sustainable Economics for a digital planet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://brtf.sdsc.edu/">http://brtf.sdsc.edu/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Sustaining Domain Repositories for Digital Data<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/ICPSR/support/announcements/2013/12/white-paper-urges-new-approaches-to">http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/ICPSR/support/announcements/2013/12/white-paper-urges-new-approaches-to</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Original email:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Can you tell my library is undergoing some changes with respect to research data?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It is now being proposed that we start charging for data stored in our repository USpace. My questions are :<o:p></o:p></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Do you charge researchers for depositing research data into your repository?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">What does the charge cover (storage/curation, administration costs, hardware, software, FTE for assisting researcher with data, etc.)<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Do you have a file size limit for depositing data? What is it?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Do you have a file size limit before you start charging for depositing data? What is it? How much do you charge?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">What is the average file size being deposited in you repository?<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for any assistance,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Daureen Nesdill <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">University of Utah<o:p></o:p></p>
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