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</span><a href="http://reshare.ukdataservice.ac.uk/legal/">http://reshare.ukdataservice.ac.uk/legal/</a> Which I have not had a chance to look review.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From this experience, I have two lingering questions:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">How many scholarly publishers (and which ones) are establishing these types of criteria and providing “badges”?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Do data repositories regularly time-stamp and freeze data sets? Since I work with ELNs (electronic lab notebooks) I’m aware these systems generally do (FDA regulations) provide time-stamp and freezing of notebooks. I’m wondering if ELNs’
time-stamp can substitute for repository time-stamp<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ruth Duerr<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Research Data, Access and Preservation <rdap@asis.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rdap] data repository assistance please<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 27, 2017, at 5:19 PM, Sebastian Karcher <<a href="mailto:skarcher@maxwell.syr.edu">skarcher@maxwell.syr.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(I have a message in moderation, which can now be deleted, assuming this goes through).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I'd like to make a strong plug for going with ICSPR over half-baked solutions here. ICPSR has a huge amount of experience and significant technical infrastructure to
handle highly sensitive data (and most things that are directly identifiable qualify). They charge money for the use of their virtual enclave because that's very expensive to maintain (which is why few other places do it).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The problem with putting a metadata entry in an IR is that you don't get preservation services, which is half the reason you put data in a repository in the first place.
Even if we assume the researcher handles access requests, who will provide multiple back-ups, fixity checks/protection against link rot, file type migration if needed, etc.? The reason this is somewhat viable in Andrew's scenario is that the data are actually
properly archived elsewhere. If that's not the case, this is, in my opinion, a no go, and repository managers should not allow, let alone promote, it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Harvard Dataverse (as well as Zenodo, another self-deposit option that allows restrictions) is _not_ a robust solution, at this time, for sensitive data (this is planned
for the 5.0 release of the software they use; they're currently at 4.6 [1]). While it is possible to restrict access to data, I am pretty sure that they are stored unencrypted on the server. I know that's not acceptable for sensitive data from an information
security point of view and I _think_ (but am not a lawyer) you may actually break the law by using it for personally identified data.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">So please make a pitch to your researcher for the value of curated, secure repositories like ICPSR for sensitive data.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">My two (rather passionate) cents on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sebastian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-community/ZQUQhVLiSoo/1yjhPFthAAAJ"><span style="color:#954F72">https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-community/ZQUQhVLiSoo/1yjhPFthAAAJ</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">Rdap
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, April 27, 2017 2:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Research Data, Access and Preservation<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[Rdap] data repository assistance please</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">Hi all – Hope you had fun in Seattle.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">I have a researcher in psych with spreadsheet data that cannot be de-identified. She wants to publish this data in a repository that
freezes and time stamps the data, in addition to being only available to qualified researchers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">Any ideas?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">We have investigated ICPSR, and re3data.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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