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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I feel change is coming<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">NSF is sponsoring a 2-day workshop in October, Workshop on Accelerating Public Access to Research Data<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Also sponsored by APLU and AAU. The workshop is by invitation only.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Daureen Nesdill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">U of Utah<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> rdap-bounces@kunverj.com [mailto:rdap-bounces@kunverj.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Amanda L Whitmire<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 07, 2018 10:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Research Data Access and Preservation <rdap@kunverj.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rdap] [RDAP] How much data should researchers *actually* publicly deposit?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sebastian makes a really important point: NSF culture and enforcement around data is
<i>ad hoc,</i> and intentionally so. The higher levels of NSF administration recognize the slow progress toward open data, but remain committed to supporting communities of practice. They maintain a pragmatic approach that recognizes that what works for researchers
will vary across disciplines. It’s not convenient for <i>us</i>, but it makes sense.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anyhow - what I really came here to share is an example of how attitudes toward enforcement are changing in one corner of the NSF. In the new BIO DEB (Division of Environmental Biology) solicitation, there is a section on data dissemination
& accessibility <a href="https://debblog.nsfbio.com/2018/08/23/the-new-deb-core-programs-solicitation-is-here/">https://debblog.nsfbio.com/2018/08/23/the-new-deb-core-programs-solicitation-is-here/</a>. It reads:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"DEB is ratcheting up expectations of data archiving and accessibility, as is generally the case across NSF. Our new solicitation makes clear that PIs who have had prior support within the last five years must provide details on how data have
been permanently archived and made publicly available. This information should go in the “Results from Prior NSF” section, following the format described in the PAPPG (II.C.2.d.iii). Likewise, when submitting Annual and Final Reports, BIO PIs will be required
to “include information about progress made in data management and sharing of research products (e.g., identifier or accession numbers for data sets…and other types of data sharing and dissemination).”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It will be increasingly important to craft thoughtful and thorough Data Management Plans when submitting new proposals. Reviewers and Program Officers will pay particular attention to how data and specimens are stored and when and how they
will become publicly assessable. For context and guidance, see <a href="http://www.nsf.gov/bio/biodmp.jsp">http://www.nsf.gov/bio/biodmp.jsp</a>.”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A sign of some progress!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">amanda<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans",sans-serif;color:black">Amanda L. Whitmire, Ph.D.<br>
Head Librarian & Bibliographer, Harold A. Miller Library<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sep 7, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Jonathan Petters <<a href="mailto:jpetters@vt.edu">jpetters@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'll add that I usually tell NSF proposal writers to say in their DMP that they publicly share what data they're willing and able to. In many cases I can get them to agree that at least sharing the data displayed in figures/plots would
be useful to their colleagues, and some are willing to go further in sharing raw data and processing scripts.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To follow NSF's policy, I agree with Sebastian that if<o:p></o:p></p>
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the peer reviewers of your proposal are alright with your DMP (and what you say you will share),<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
the program officer is alright with your DMP, and<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
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<p class="MsoNormal">You're currently good with NSF. And really, the third bullet is a maybe at this time; it's not clear NSF is really checking DMP compliance at present. But they may in the future, and all the funding agencies say that non-compliance with
a DMP may count against a prospective PI in future funding proposals.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Jon<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 8:33 PM, Sebastian Karcher <<a href="mailto:skarcher@maxwell.syr.edu" target="_blank">skarcher@maxwell.syr.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Kate and others,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I think it’s important to remember that “The NSF” doesn’t really exist for this purpose. While yes, NSF has
one overarching data policy (though directorates have slightly differing versions), in effect this is determined by a) the program officer and b) the (anonymous) selection committee</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Assessing whether there is enough data sharing is basically a three stage process:<br>
1) We have seen a number of occasions now where program officers have actually sent the DMP back to the researcher and asked them to include more data sharing before sending the proposal out for review. Typically this happens with relatively short deadlines
and is stressful, but it doesn’t, afaik, harm the proposal. It’s pretty clear that how much individual program officers push applicants on this varies a lot.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">2) The grant selection committee does have access to the DMP and is actually required, by NSF rules,
to comment on it in their recommendation. In many cases, they’ll just glance at it and sign off,
<a name="m_1587411390676798068__MailEndCompose">but these are, typically peers, perhaps even competitors of the grant applicant and I cannot imagine them looking kindly on obvious attempts to withhold data “to maintain a competitive edge”. I.e. not sharing
“enough” data in the eyes of their fellow scientists can absolutely sink a grant application.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">3) Finally, the program officer reviews and has to sign off on the grant reports. We have strong anecdotal
evidence that there is currently very little follow through on promises to share data, but there is, of course, no guarantee that is going to stay that well, and obviously, not having your grant report accepted is a big problem. (Needless to say, it’s also
deeply unethical to make promises to share data that one does not intend to keep).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I obviously have a bias against researchers who want to share as little data as possible, so take this
with a grain of salt, but I do think that the above makes clear that trying to skirt by with a minimum of data sharing for an NSF grant is a risky strategy. I’d try to discourage it best I could even I didn’t believe it was
<i>also </i>an ethically questionable strategy.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">All best</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Sebastian</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:rdap-bounces@kunverj.com" target="_blank">rdap-bounces@kunverj.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:rdap-bounces@kunverj.com" target="_blank">rdap-bounces@kunverj.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kate Barron<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 6, 2018 4:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:rdap@mail.kunverj.com" target="_blank">rdap@mail.kunverj.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Rdap] [RDAP] How much data should researchers *actually* publicly deposit?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">When a project is funded by a federal grant, how much raw data are researchers expected to make accessible? Must they truly make everything and anything publicly available, or are
brief extracts and/or summary statistics acceptable (in other words, what is the minimum sharing requirement)? What practices have you noticed among your colleagues/constituents?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I am specifically looking at NSF grants, for which guidelines are (intentionally?) vague. I am working with a faculty member who is hesitant to share all of their data, as they
want to maintain a competitive edge.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Jonathan Petters Ph.D.<br>
Data Management Consultant and Curation Services Coordinator</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Virginia Tech<br>
(540) 232-8682<br>
<a href="https://www.lib.vt.edu/research-learning/ResearchDataManagementAndCuration.html" target="_blank">https://www.lib.vt.edu/research-learning/ResearchDataManagementAndCuration.html</a></span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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