[Rdap] RDAP notes from agency panel OSTP memo discussion?

[Joe Hourcle]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Matthew Mayernik wrote:

> Thanks to both of you. I wasn't able to attend, but this sequence of tweets really gives me the picture of what was presented. I have to say, it sounds almost identical to a similar session put on at the AGU meeting in December, lots of "pre-decisional" presentations due to individual agencies waiting on OSTP responses.


The only overlap in agencies though was NOAA.  (also given by Jeff DLB).

I'm working from memory here, as my notes aren't that great (I was one of the folks convening the AGU session).  We had talks from NASA, NOAA and USGS.

USGS and NOAA didn't really talk about their responses, as they hadn't heard back from OSTP at that point.  (they suspected that the shutdown had affected the schedule for their response).  They instead talked about other projects they were working on to make their data more easily findable to the public, and the type of data that they had.  (eg, USGS had decades if not centuries of notebooks from surveys that they were working to digitize).

NASA *did* talk about what was in their response, possibly because NASA had assigned a new chief scientist since they had submitted their response, and she hadn't been involved in the process.  (and she went first, so didn't know that the other agencies weren't actually going to talk about their responses).  I guess now that it's been almost 4 months, it won't be as big of a deal to mention.

Their initial proposal was a 2 year embargo, but the timer didn't start until after a paper was published.  I tried getting clarification of what had to be released, and what had to be released if they never published an article.  She hadn't been involved with the initial response, but her belief was that the way it was worded they only had to release the data used in the paper (which means that if they cherry-picked the data, they don't have to release all of what they collected), and that if there wasn't a publication, they weren't obligated to release the data.

I have no idea what their final policy might be.

-Joe




> 
> On 4/3/2014 2:58 PM, Kristin Briney wrote:
>> Thank for putting this together Carolyn!
>> 
>> I've also been playing around with Storify today and just put together the tweets from this session: http://sfy.co/bdwS. I'm sure there is stuff from Twitter to add to the Google Docs notes (including several hilarious #predecisional tweets).
>> 
>> Best,
>> Kristin
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kristin Briney, PhD
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>> UW-Milwaukee Libraries
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>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Carolyn Rauber <cmrauber at umn.edu <mailto:cmrauber at umn.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Hi all,
>> 
>>    I've been getting questions from my superiors about the content of
>>    that RDAP panel, but I fear my notes need some serious polishing
>>    before I share them.
>> 
>>    I recall the furious typing during the panel on government agency
>>    responses to the OSTP memo. Can we compile our notes somehow? Of
>>    course, I'll share my notes on that panel with you all -- here's a
>>    link to a Google doc.
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tw0wDeLM7pd5ll9OBSNIOAHNN9W5c7UeXUB32KNYjt4/edit?usp=sharing>
>> 
>>    Thanks,
>>    Carolyn
>> 
>>    --     Carolyn Rauber
>>    Physics, Astronomy, and Earth Sciences Librarian
>>    Science & Engineering Library
>>    University of Minnesota Twin Cities
>>    (612) 625-0317 <tel:%28612%29%20625-0317>
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