[Rdap] RDAP notes from agency panel OSTP memo discussion?

Wed Apr 16 13:29:14 EDT 2014

Thanks everyone for the notes and discussion. I couldn't attend RDAP, and
this is very helpful.

Brian

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Brian Westra

Lorry Lokey Science Data Services Librarian

University of Oregon Libraries

541-346-2654 | bwestra at uoregon.edu

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:12 PM, William L. Anderson <band at acm.org> wrote:

> Megan, thanks for this informative resource.
>
> /WLA
>
> On Apr 15, 2014, at 2:56 PM, O'Donnell, Megan N [LIB] <mno at iastate.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm late to the party but I have made all of my notes from RDAP
> available through Microsoft OneDrive (because I took them in OneNote)
> > http://bit.ly/1p7Fpcd
> > I've tried to put as many links to the slides as possible but I haven't
> had time to complete this.
> >
> > Best,
> > Megan O'Donnell
> > Scholarly Communications Librarian
> > EEOB, Entomology, Horticulture, and Plant Path & Micro. Bio Librarian
> > Iowa State University Library
> > mno at iastate.edu   (515) 294-1670
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rdap [mailto:rdap-bounces at asis.org] On Behalf Of Joe Hourcle
> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 12:59 PM
> > To: Research Data, Access and Preservation
> > Subject: Re: [Rdap] RDAP notes from agency panel OSTP memo discussion?
> >
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Matthew Mayernik wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks to both of you. I wasn't able to attend, but this sequence of
> tweets really gives me the picture of what was presented. I have to say, it
> sounds almost identical to a similar session put on at the AGU meeting in
> December, lots of "pre-decisional" presentations due to individual agencies
> waiting on OSTP responses.
> >
> >
> > The only overlap in agencies though was NOAA.  (also given by Jeff DLB).
> >
> > I'm working from memory here, as my notes aren't that great (I was one
> of the folks convening the AGU session).  We had talks from NASA, NOAA and
> USGS.
> >
> > USGS and NOAA didn't really talk about their responses, as they hadn't
> heard back from OSTP at that point.  (they suspected that the shutdown had
> affected the schedule for their response).  They instead talked about other
> projects they were working on to make their data more easily findable to
> the public, and the type of data that they had.  (eg, USGS had decades if
> not centuries of notebooks from surveys that they were working to digitize).
> >
> > NASA *did* talk about what was in their response, possibly because NASA
> had assigned a new chief scientist since they had submitted their response,
> and she hadn't been involved in the process.  (and she went first, so
> didn't know that the other agencies weren't actually going to talk about
> their responses).  I guess now that it's been almost 4 months, it won't be
> as big of a deal to mention.
> >
> > Their initial proposal was a 2 year embargo, but the timer didn't start
> until after a paper was published.  I tried getting clarification of what
> had to be released, and what had to be released if they never published an
> article.  She hadn't been involved with the initial response, but her
> belief was that the way it was worded they only had to release the data
> used in the paper (which means that if they cherry-picked the data, they
> don't have to release all of what they collected), and that if there wasn't
> a publication, they weren't obligated to release the data.
> >
> > I have no idea what their final policy might be.
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On 4/3/2014 2:58 PM, Kristin Briney wrote:
> >>> Thank for putting this together Carolyn!
> >>>
> >>> I've also been playing around with Storify today and just put together
> the tweets from this session: http://sfy.co/bdwS. I'm sure there is stuff
> from Twitter to add to the Google Docs notes (including several hilarious
> #predecisional tweets).
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Kristin
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Kristin Briney, PhD
> >>> Data Services Librarian
> >>> UW-Milwaukee Libraries
> >>>
> >>> http://www4.uwm.edu/libraries/dataservices/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Carolyn Rauber <cmrauber at umn.edu<mailto:
> cmrauber at umn.edu>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   Hi all,
> >>>
> >>>   I've been getting questions from my superiors about the content of
> >>>   that RDAP panel, but I fear my notes need some serious polishing
> >>>   before I share them.
> >>>
> >>>   I recall the furious typing during the panel on government agency
> >>>   responses to the OSTP memo. Can we compile our notes somehow? Of
> >>>   course, I'll share my notes on that panel with you all -- here's a
> >>>   link to a Google doc.
> >>>   <
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tw0wDeLM7pd5ll9OBSNIOAHNN9W5c7UeXUB32KNYjt4/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> >>>
> >>>   Thanks,
> >>>   Carolyn
> >>>
> >>>   --     Carolyn Rauber
> >>>   Physics, Astronomy, and Earth Sciences Librarian
> >>>   Science & Engineering Library
> >>>   University of Minnesota Twin Cities
> >>>   (612) 625-0317 <tel:%28612%29%20625-0317>
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